Tag: writing and whatnot

castiel-knight-of-hell:

rosemoonweaver:

sodagiraffe:

rosemoonweaver:

What’s it called when you’re writing a fic that’s kinda sorta canon verse but not? Like, (and no, this isn’t what I’m doing) if Dean were still a hunter but Sam was a weremoose and Charlie was a witch? Is that canon divergent or is there a specific category for that? 

I think canon divergence is when everything is the same until something happens differently, I’d define your situation as “everything is the same but Sam is a weremoose and Charlie is a with” or just put in “weremoose!Sam” and “witch!Charlie”

But what if it’s like, Dean’s a hunter but he doesn’t have a brother named Sam and Sam is a weremoose? Does that still count as canon divergent? 

Canon divergent is correct. That tag means your main basis for the story was canon but you took a different turn on one or more aspects. In this case you’d be using the world that Supernatural created, it’s rules about humans and monster, but you took a different turn when it came to established characters 

That makes sense. Thanks!

sodagiraffe:

rosemoonweaver:

What’s it called when you’re writing a fic that’s kinda sorta canon verse but not? Like, (and no, this isn’t what I’m doing) if Dean were still a hunter but Sam was a weremoose and Charlie was a witch? Is that canon divergent or is there a specific category for that? 

I think canon divergence is when everything is the same until something happens differently, I’d define your situation as “everything is the same but Sam is a weremoose and Charlie is a with” or just put in “weremoose!Sam” and “witch!Charlie”

But what if it’s like, Dean’s a hunter but he doesn’t have a brother named Sam and Sam is a weremoose? Does that still count as canon divergent? 

@gertiecraign replied to your post:
What’s it called when you’re writing a fic that’s…

I still get so confused about how to tag shit like this. I have no idea, dude. I need a much better breakdown of the canon-variation tags. Sorry I couldn’t help. If you happen upon a clear explanation, I’d love to hear.

No worries! It’d be nice to have clearer tags though, you’re right. Because it’s not *really* canon divergent if it’s set up completely different but it’s also not like Urban Fantasy b/c hunters and stuff.
Idk. I might just go with Alternate Universe – Fantasy on Ao3. That should cover it I guess.
(whenever I actually get to that stage, of course)

What’s it called when you’re writing a fic that’s kinda sorta canon verse but not? Like, (and no, this isn’t what I’m doing) if Dean were still a hunter but Sam was a weremoose and Charlie was a witch? Is that canon divergent or is there a specific category for that? 

samanddeaninpanties:

it’s not dark fic that squicks me.

it’s comments made by readers or the writer.

it’s the people who victim blame. it’s the people who make excuses for their favorite character. it’s the ones who say “so what if they were drugged? X only touched them – it wasn’t really rape” and other equally terrible things.

we have endless posts where someone calls dark fic and everyone who reads it evil and people respond with some very thoughtful reasons why OP is wrong.

but I can’t say i’ve seen much conversation regarding comments. i find other people’s reactions more squicky or triggering than anything i could have read in the fic itself.

This. 

It’s really bothersome to see the comments on darker works where people make any and every excuse to justify the behavior of villainous characters just because those characters and those ships are a person’s favorite. To be honest with you, it almost feels like gaslighting. I know that’s not what commentors are intending, but it feels like it. Because if you’re writing this thing that’s maybe or maybe not based on your own experiences and someone comes along to tell you that it’s not *really* XYZ… well… maybe what you experienced wasn’t *really* XYZ either. Maybe you’re a faker. Maybe you’re a liar. Maybe the problem was you. And that’s a really shitty feeling. 

There’s a worrying trend I’ve seen friends in other fandoms talk about surrounding dark fic. Readers will insist that the clearly tagged and very dark shit they’re reading isn’t dark because it’s their OTP and how could their OTP ever be anything but good? Readers bend over backwards to justify it because if they don’t they have to face the fact that what they’re reading isn’t wholesome or happy. I don’t know if it’s guilt or ignorance, but I wish it would stop. If it’s ignorance I suggest readers take a good look at the tags again. If a fic is tagged rape, noncon, or dubcon, it’s equivalent to rape irl. (In terms of consent being not clear, freely given, and revocable.) Tags are there to be your guide. They tell you what the author’s understanding of the material is. If the author thinks it’s noncon, assume that it’s noncon. If it’s guilt, honestly, tell guilt to get bent. There’s nothing wrong with reading and enjoying dark content. You’re not a bad person and you’re not contributing to the social decay of the youth, or whatever. Enjoy it if you enjoy it, but don’t make excuses about how it’s not what it clearly is. 

It just… it bothers me. Most writers know what we’re doing with our fics. Many of us agonize over our work and the tags on our work so we don’t accidentally expose anyone to a major squick or trigger they weren’t prepared for. We actually do care about our readers and how they handle our works, so maybe commentors can do some of that to. Maybe readers should think a little more about the way they phrase things and why they think clearly dark content isn’t that dark. Dark content is created and shared, a lot of the time, so that people who have things they want to express don’t feel so alone in it and comments that miss the point and victim blame do the opposite of that. 

ready-edmayne:

therainingkiwi:

acertainmaybe:

a-dreaming-equestrian:

no more ‘vampires who correct history books’

more vampires who don’t remember
more vampires saying ‘i don’t fucking know man, google it’
more vampires not remembering important historical figures
more vampires not recalling centuries worth of history
more vampires saying ‘ that was at least 300 years ago, how the FUCK could i remember that detail?’
more vampires whose brains work like human brains

More vampires who 300 years later can’t remember what was the truth and what was the lie they told to get out of trouble.

More vampires who are like, “I don’t know, man, I spent most of that decade in an opium den.”

More vampires who weren’t paying attention because they didn’t think it would be important.

More vampires who don’t know because there was lot of conflicting gossip and they don’t want to point any fingers.

More vampires who are just bad at dates. “Back in 1620, or was it 1645, wait, what year is it now?”

More vampires who were on a totally different continent when it happened, so get off their back and stop asking them questions already.

YES to all of this but also consider: vampires who only remember the most trivial stuff.

“Oh yeah, the only thing I remember about the American Revolution was this nice candlemaker I met sometime, and she was wearing this really cute red shawl…”

“Uhhh I don’t remember much about the fall of Rome but there was this one fucking cobblestone right outside the coliseum…”

Also consider: vampires who realize three or four hundred years after the fact that they knew someone famous.

Just sits up in bed one night screaming “THAT WAS GEORGE GODDAMN WASHINGTON”