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@unforth-ninawaters
Well, I mean yeah if they wanted to just tell an emotional and heartfelt stort about faith, destiny, and humanity. But, cash cow.

So now it’s a weird monster show and I’m pretty much okay with that. Granted I came in later. I started watching… I think after s8 or 9 aired and I was catching up literally to escape my life which was an even bigger shit show at the time. It filled a void and it will always have a special place in my heart because it gave me something else to focus on. And it’s given me friends and re-ignited my love of writing. So now matter how stupid it is at times I owe a lot to it.

That being said…
S6 & 7 aren’t very good. They feel off in ways I can’t describe. And they both contain some episodes that inspire so much anger in me and I just wanna kick stuff.
Granted, I don’t know what I would have done to essentially restart the series, but I wouldn’t’ve gone with “last season but bad”. Starting small again would have been an interesting choice though.

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…this sounds soooo much like how I felt when S6 aired. I was like ???? WTF NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE???

Okay, but what the actual hell was season 6? Like, you went from this really great story about the apocalypse and faith in people and defiance and sacrifice and all kinds of other feel good ideals to fricken I don’t even know? Monster civil war that wasn’t. Apocalypse part 2 that wasn’t. Alpha hunting? Like… what? None of that season made a damn bit of sense. It was clunky and confused and everything was off kilter.
I will never understand how Sera Gamble went from writing Two Minutes to Midnight to running that. Though, I feel bad for her because after the almost end of the world what are you really supposed to do? She stumbled and I feel bad but I still really don’t understand what the hell even happened.

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But, that said…normally I’d think they were setting him, and maybe Lucy, up for a redemption arc but SPN has such a strong them of daaaaaaaark and angst that while I want to think there’s a happy ending there, if not for Sam and Dean than at least maybe for Jack…I just can’t be optimistic.

That said I find I’m surprisingly invested in him, especially considering I haven’t seen the episode and don’t intend to watch it…

lol. No worries about the misunderstanding. I also wonder what happened to Jesse. I hope he’s happy. 

Honestly, I’m refraining from making any calls because I was so thrown off last season. Like, my biggest issue with the whole season (barring the last episode and all the fridging before that) was that the story made no sense. SPN has a history of redeeming the most human of monsters so I was expecting Mick to be a turncoat. (Actually, I expected them to try with Toni first but… well.) Like, what was the whole point of introducing “man” as the enemy if you’re not going to actually solve the issue? And for a show that is so humanist it was jarring as hell to see no humans get a redemption. It wasn’t at all what I was expecting. It was like the plot I was actually interested in was side-lined for a plot I literally couldn’t care less about (build on super stupid actions by characters who aren’t that stupid). 

Any other time, I would be setting up mental bets with myself as to whether or not Jack would wind up good, bad, or bad but redeemed. This season though, I’m hesitant b/c how the hell am I actually supposed to guess when the threads I though made sense last year were abandoned in favor of dumber threads? I’m just… confused and irritated and I have no idea if this season will make sense either. It’s like… I don’t even care about being wrong or right, I just like the guessing game and finding the pieces I missed. Last season though, I just don’t get why they did what they did. It doesn’t make sense to me from a storytelling perspective, so it’s frustrating. So I’m not going to get invested in the story line. I’ll get inspired by the characters, the potential of new worlds, the potential the world already has and be happy. 

I don’t want a redemption for Lucifer because he’s horrible and deserves nothing but suffering. Lucifer can rot. Jack on the other hand is someone I’d rather see be a force for good. And if he’s not… there’s always fanfic. 

Also, I’m not sure what it is about Jack (other than that he’s adorable and kinda sweet and does that squinty glare thing) but he’s very easy to like. I don’t blame you for being at least a little invested. 

@samanddeaninpanties
It’s funny isn’t it? The fandom wants a thing and then they get the thing and proceed to destroy it. I think it’s this pessimist world view ya know? If it’s not perfect it’s worthless. If it plays off tropes we don’t like it’s terrible. If it stumbles it’s doomed. It’s a mentality that’s not good for anyone but I think people would rather be right than disappointed. If you expect nothing or the worst, when it happens you won’t be sad right? Wrong. The mentailty breeds hopelessness. (And I should know considering that’s been one of my biggest problems since I was 12.)

It’s like people have no concept of what they have to lose. Worst case scenario? It sucks and gets cancled after one season. How do we fix it? Fanfic. Best case scenario? It’s amazing and wonderful and everything we’ve ever wanted. Most likely? It’s okay. Its has some issues but it’s still fun and we read and write about it in our spare time. What do we have to lose by being positive or cautiously hopeful? A few hours of our lives and a little disappointment. Wow. Such a sacrifice.

Maybe it’s just me, but the attitude of “it’s gonna be bad and i can’t hope for anything bleh” really bothers me. The world sucks right now. Life is hard. I’m gonna take my little slices of happiness where i can and be happy and excited for what I can be. If I get disappointed that’s okay. That’s life. I’ve been down that road before. But I see no reason to be pre-emptively critical of something that barely exists and I have little real world stake in.

@deaneatscake @unforth-ninawaters
Well there’s the usual shit stirers who I’m pretty much ignoring at this point. But honestly I’m so much more irritated with the general mentality that if there’s anything remotely wrong with a thing that it should be completely discounted. Every time there’s a new release about casting it’s the same few things that circulate subtly in tags or texts posts. It’s complaining about tropes we don’t even know if they’ll be using 100%, what the casting choices mean for character backstories (so far new charcters are played by women of color so if they were orphaned the obvious conclusion is other characters of color were killed), how badly it’s going to suck blah blah blah.

It would just be nice if people would just give it a chance. I mean, fuck, how many seasons does spn have? They get all the chances. It’s not that I think the show should be 100% free from critique, I just have a problem with the fact that we know basically nothing about it and it already has people who are vocal about how it shouldn’t exist and people who want it to exist but complain about whatever problems they think it has. It barely exists!

But more than that I really do have an issue with the way tumblr treats any media that’s trying to make strides for the better but may have issues. I mean there was wank about who worked on Dream Daddy and how that made it bad. Nothing is ever good enough and I’m really tired of the idea that everything needs to be picked apart and destroyed until we prove it’s not good enough.

I’m just worried. I’m excited about a show with some of my favorite characters and new ones I’m excited for to step foot in a world I’m interested in. I just don’t want to see the show dead in the water because no one was kind enough to give it an opportunity to find it’s legs. But if the auidence reception is terrible for whatever reason, whether the show actually sucks or if it’s just not perfect, it won’t get the chance.

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As someone who kinda hates post modernism…its still an important artistic and intellectual movement that has been critical in advancing our approach to history and culture

Absolutely. Love it or leave but postmodernism has been absolutely crucial to our developments of critical theory, the way we study history, feminism, culture, and philosophy. Like, it’s just the nature of the way we begin to understand and relate to the world after something as massive and earth shattering as WW2. It has flaws, sure, and it’s not of interest to everyone all the time, but that doesn’t mean it’s just a load of crap. 

I’m pretty sure this BS comes from the misinterpretation that postmodernism is “meaningless” and means “nothing matters and I can do what I want with everything”. Which it doesn’t but no one picks up a book anymore or does the slightest bit of research before trying to argue concepts. 

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I feel like post modernism was thought up by people who can’t create anything but still want to own it.

I am so sorry that your encounters with art, literature, philosophy, music, and world history classes has left you with this impression.

Western civilization goes through phases.  Ideas and concepts are sparked and they spread through everything in the creative spectrum, from typography to architecture.  The Enlightenment gave birth to Modernism, and Postmodernism sprouted off as a reaction and counter; that is, an era that praised logic and man’s intelligence and potential and looked for potential utopia ran smack dab into the Industiral Revolution, shortly followed by World War I and World War II.

Postmodernism isn’t just “I get to interpret things however I like” in fandom and literature.  It’s a philosophy of skepticism and subjectivity, born from an era where suddenly nothing was as certain as it seemed.

Excuse me, what? Postmodernism was thoughy up by people who can’t create anything? Well fuck, I guess someone needs to dig up Heller and Vonnegut tell them they’re uncreative hacks.

A large portion of everything written post WW2 is postmodern. Supernatural with its Man v Fate, Man v God (literally textually The Author), Humanism Wins message IS postmodern.

Postmodernism wasn’t created on tumblr. Postmodernism is old.