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LF protecting their beautiful, beautiful tortured boy.
He literally throws temper tantrums but ok it’s not that I don’t like him, he’s just literally a child
Children throw temper tantrums because they are young and due to their youth they haven’t learned how to properly express their emotions. They usually grow out of them as they mature and their capacity for processing their emotions increases. Children who are spoiled may throw tantrums in order to get their way, but spoiled adults exhibit their spoiled attitudes differently.
If an adult exhibits a pattern of tantrum-like behavior then it’s no longer due to being spoiled and it’s a medical issue usually of a psychiatric nature. Some examples are autism, intermittent explosive disorder, and intellectual disabilities. Please don’t infantilize people who struggle with explosive episodes by calling them literal children. The only literal children are people who are child aged.
If you read the article the creators of Wreck-it Ralph say they wanted to be true to the character and Lucasfilm informed them that Kylo being a spoiled child isn’t true to his character. I think it’s interesting that the TLJ novelization has Leia remember that he struggled with explosive issues as a child and now we know that the source of his issues wasnot due to being spoiled. I’m sorry if this came across as confrontational, but it’s something I feel really passionate about due to my own conditions.
I’m actually really happy that Lucasfilm isn’t perpetuating the attitude that adults with these issues are just spoiled because it really hurts those of us who are trying to manage their condition.
I’m sorry, I didn’t know that and I really didn’t mean to be offensive. I don’t think he has any psychological issues besides maybe some anger issues tho?
@aro-ace-from-outer-space22 You’re URL is awesome btw. Surprisingly enough, Kylo is actually 29 years old rather than 18. People with extreme anger issues count as a mental illness. Intermittent Explosive Disorder is this for example. According to the directors Kylo is also struggling to grow up which mentally well people don’t usually struggle with. So him coming across as young despite being well into adulthood is intentional. This is usually a sign of trauma. In the TLJ novelization Luke senses that Kylo’s rampage on Crait is more about pain and fear than anger. Luke also in the confrontation on Crait “sensed that Kylo Ren was just a shell around the same broken boy he had tried so hard to reach.” (p 297) Also this is his reaction to seeing Luke.
He has to sit down to collect himself.
“He had seen his apprentice’s enormous potential when he was still a child–the latent power of the Skywalker bloodline was impossible to miss. And he had also seen how to exploit the boy’s feelings of inadequacy and abandonment, and his mother’s guilt and desperation to contain the darkness within her child.” (TLJ novelization P 222) This passage is about Snoke manipulating Kylo since he was a child for his own uses which is child grooming and a form of child abuse. Abused children often develop anger issues and other forms of mental illness.
“It’s more than just having a ‘bad seed’ as a kid. Snoke had targeted this kid and knew that this kid was going to be incredibly powerful in the Force and wanted him as an ally.” – JJ Abrams, director of the The Force Awakens
There’s also evidence to suggest that Snoke has been manipulating Kylo since he was in the womb. These next passages are pretty long so I’m going to use the screenshots that @corseque helpfully provided us with.
Also this: “Kylo stood stone-faced as Snoke approached him, willing himself to remain still as one finger stretched for his cheek, then higher. The fingertip traced Kylo’s eyelid, leaving a streak of moisture behind.” I just…ew. Not gonna lie as a victim of abuse this really creeped me out. Snoke is evidently still abusing him.
They even filmed this scene but understandably decided not to use the footage.
(@ the person who made these gifs, thank you for the quality nightmare fuel)
It doesn’t excuse his actions, but it does explain why he has the issues he does and makes him more sympathetic.
I think even if Kylo didn’t have issues, making fun of behavior that is in adults a symptom of mental illness is pretty tasteless. That’s why I can’t stand all those “Crylo” and “Darth Tantrum” jokes.
One of my favorite things in Star Wars is the way regular folks in the galaxy talk about Force Sensitives and/or the Skywalker family. We, the audience, know they’re just people, albeit with special magic powers, but the way other people in their own universe talk these people are gods. Luke Skywalker was a giant, pulling ships out of the sky during the Battle of Jakku. Rey moves an entire mountain to free the Resistance. Ben Solo was born either after three days of labor and with a full set of teeth or quiet and calm while Leia meditated, depending on who you ask. I just love the in-universe myth making of Star Wars.