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rosemoonweaver:

If I had more time and energy, I’d write meta about Star Wars, but I never seem to have the time, energy, or really the audience for it.

A thought that’s been on my mind recently is the metanarrative of Star Wars and how we’ve gotten so damn cynical. TLJ kind of seems to feed into this a bit (on the surface it rejects legacy, rejects the whole plot of Poe being a Hot Shot With A Plan So Crazy It Just Might Work, and Ben’s whole everything) but it really doesn’t. TLJ rejects the idea that legacy is the only thing that matters, even pointing out through Luke that sometimes it can go to your head and cloud your judgement, but ends with Han’s dice as, in my opinion, a reminder that what parts of family (Or cultural or w/e) heritage you uphold are up to you. Poe’s story is a warning against arrogance. Ben himself is a call back to every important character in the saga and when he’s not leaning on the fourth wall he’s kind of a symbol for all of this – his darkness and his fate is the symbolic darkness and fate of everyone who came before.

But all that aside, the historical context these stories are present in puts an odd weight on the story. The conversations around the story shapes the interpretations of the story and these characters in a very strange way that’s both disheartening and fascinating.

Omg, I got the most amazing answer!

I believe that by the end of IX what we’ll get will be a ā€œredemption of legacyā€, which is why the second film appears so cynical. It’s a fatal flaw to rely too heavily on a legacy but to ā€œkill the pastā€ is equally as flawed. A reconciliation of past and future is where we are heading imo.

I feel you completely in what you say, the historical context in which the ST takes place is heavily loaded in that regard, so the movies end up being under an odd light to say the least. But SW has always been its own thing. I think that Lucas was a man ā€œoutsideā€ of his time in the way he chose to tell his story, as a myth, and I believe the new direction of LF stuck to the core of what SW always was.

Once again, I LOVEEEED your answer (and I consider it to be a meta).

Thank you! And now that I’m not just kinda wildly posting and hoping it sticks, I’ll expand a little lol.Ā 

I absolutely agree. The universe is trying to set up a compromise between honoring the past and letting go of the things you don’t need/the things that hold you back. Doing both is necessary in order to move forward both individually and as a society. We have to learn from the past, to understand our mistakes, and to let go of the guilt, shame, and fear that those mistakes cause us if we ever want to move forward. This is exactly what Luke learned in TLJ and what he is attempting to pass on to both Rey and Ben. The movie seems cynical on the surface, what with the wholeĀ ā€œit’s time for the Jedi to endā€Ā ā€œlet the past die; kill it if you have toā€ kind of talk but that argument doesn’t stick where it counts. By the end of the film Luke has gone fromĀ ā€œit’s time for the Jedi to endā€ toĀ ā€œI will not be the last Jediā€ because he’s finally understood that failure is an important stepping stone instead of a dead weight.Ā 

And honestly, the reconciliation of the past and future is needed. Vader’s shadow is heavy over the whole trilogy because the man and monster were never reconciled. Anakin kind of got an easy out by dying, honestly. Everyone else had to come up with a way to make sense of the fact that the galaxy’s favorite soldier was also it’s greatest terror and ultimately they couldn’t do that. That’s really the whole reason we have a conflict right now. In a way, Anakin’s redemption isn’t complete. His legacy needs to be one that affirms, not damns, or else what had he done but left ashes in his wake? And that’s the point, imo.Ā 

As to the metanarrative, it’s so interesting because Star War is a myth. It exists in a timeless way where the core themes and ideals of the story can be used to teach and advise even out of their original context. But that’s not to say Star Wars isn’t political. It absolutely is and always has been. Lucas himself admits that the OT was his own version of protest against the Vietnam War and the Emperor is both Nixon and Dick Chaney depending on what trilogy you’re watching. So while I do believe the ST is political, I don’t think t’s political in the sense that what we’re seeing on screen is supposed to match what we’re seeing IRL. If memory serves, The Force Awakens was written in 2013 which was before *gestures to everything* this. Five years ago we had different concerns. Concerns likeĀ ā€œwhat about war profiteering?ā€ (Canto Bight) andĀ ā€œshould we really be using drones to kill people super far away?ā€ (Starkiller Base) andĀ ā€œare we really just paying for the short-sighted mistakes of our past because honestly a lot of this is hangover from older conflicts?ā€ (the whole damn First Order). So yes, I think there is a political message in the ST but I don’t think it’s the thing Americans are currently dealing with. To me, it makes more sense as a reflection of the evils of the Military Industrial Complex and ā€œIt’s technically not an Empireā€ American Imperialism.Ā 

I think a lot of what the story was trying to say got lost because people frankly jumped the gun and decided they knew what the trilogy was about before it even hit theaters. There’s an element I can trace all the way back to g@mer g@te of internet shitlords manufacturing outrage over Finn and Rey and no white men and blah blah blahĀ ā€œmuh Star Warsā€ and there’s an element that reacted to that by embracing the idea that this trilogy was supposed to be a criticism of toxic masculinity and a celebratory dismantling of the patriarchy. And honestly? Both of those miss the point and do so badly. The films don’t say anything like that. The films are a lot more interested in the concept ofĀ  ā€œhow do we become what we were meant to be despite the trauma of the pastā€ which ties in to both the character arcs of Finn, Rey, and Ben, and the political message as I see it.Ā 

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dude. same. Rebels had me so going back and forth between ‘this is fine’ and ‘oh god no why’. watching TCW on the other hand was just me constantly trying to suppress the voice in my head that kept chanting they’re!all!gonna!die! over and over. i’m just glad Ahsoka got a mostly happy ending and that the OT exists… but then i remember that we’re not done with the ST and I get nervous lol

Ugh. Man, if they bring her back to kill her off I will be so freaking pissed. Let the lady rest! This is her second war/confrontation with a stupid evil empire (assuming she’s still alive at this point which I am). She’s been through a lot of shit. Let her live! Just please let her have peace.Ā 

Rebels on the whole was a little hit or miss for me but when it hit it hit hard. Especially every time Ahsoka showed up anywhere near Vader. It hurt so much. And then with that final confrontation. I was a mess.Ā 

TCW is a special kind of torture, honestly. You get all attached to the clones and the Jedi and you know how it’s gonna end but you still catch feels anyway. I’m so not ready for season 7. Don’t get me wrong, I’m super excited for it and I’m going to marathon the whole rest of it before it airs but it’s gonna hurt.Ā 

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If I had more time and energy, I’d write meta about Star Wars, but I never seem to have the time, energy, or really the audience for it.

A thought that’s been on my mind recently is the metanarrative of Star Wars and how we’ve gotten so damn cynical. TLJ kind of seems to feed into this a bit (on the surface it rejects legacy, rejects the whole plot of Poe being a Hot Shot With A Plan So Crazy It Just Might Work, and Ben’s whole everything) but it really doesn’t. TLJ rejects the idea that legacy is the only thing that matters, even pointing out through Luke that sometimes it can go to your head and cloud your judgement, but ends with Han’s dice as, in my opinion, a reminder that what parts of family (Or cultural or w/e) heritage you uphold are up to you. Poe’s story is a warning against arrogance. Ben himself is a call back to every important character in the saga and when he’s not leaning on the fourth wall he’s kind of a symbol for all of this – his darkness and his fate is the symbolic darkness and fate of everyone who came before.

But all that aside, the historical context these stories are present in puts an odd weight on the story. The conversations around the story shapes the interpretations of the story and these characters in a very strange way that’s both disheartening and fascinating.

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I’m really hoping that we get some Finn/Ben interaction on EP 9. I think it’s likely to happen, but I really, really need it considering the way they left it on Starkiller.

They’ve been set up as narrative foils and embodiments of each other’s worst fears (for Finn it’s that the FO can and will come after him and he’ll be unable to get away. For Ben, it’s that he’s unworthy of any part of his family’s legacy and anyone could come along and take his place). I really would like to see the two of them on better terms after they’ve both grown past their fears.

Also, I kinda hope we’ll get more Finn stuff in the future. He’s got a lot of potential as a character and I wanna see more of him.

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Anakin and Ahsoka make me so damn sad. I love them both and I love their interactions but knowing how it all ends up kills me. He loved her so damn much and he would do anything to protect her and she loves him and knows he’s conflicted and just… then… season 2 Rebels finale. It hurts!

They make me so emotional I swear.

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Since you mentioned liking Revenge of the Sith it got me thinking about how I’d rate the Star Wars films, so that’s what I decided to do.Ā 

In order from least favorite to favorite:
10. The Phantom Menace
Outside of Duel of the Fates I always forget what the hell happens in this movie. I don’t hate it, it just bores me. Kid Anakin is fine though and Jake Lloyd deserved better. (I have seen waaaaay worse kid actors. This little guy was fine, Star Wars fans are just assholes.)Ā 
9. Rogue OneĀ 
Also kinda boring. After Scarif everything really picks up and I like the movie a whole hell of a lot but before that it just kinda drags for me. I don’t feel like I know any of the characters really well and that’s an issue for me. Jyn is closed off (for good reason) but I guess I wish I would’ve been able to get to know her as a character. There wasn’t really time for that, I know, but it would’ve helped. But it also has Tarkin in it, so I guess that’s a point in it’s favor.Ā 
8. Attack of the Clones
Attack of the Clones has some of my favorite Star Wars things (Across the Stars, Anakin’s slaughter of the Tuskin Raiders, Anakin being totally torn up about said slaughter, Count Dooku, ect) but it’s still a giant fucking mess. There’s a lot I love about it, but it’s just not super great.Ā Ā 
7. Solo
Again, Solo is fine, but it’s not better than the others in my opinion. Alden Ehrenreich did well and I believe him as a young Han. I liked it but there are other ones I like more.Ā 
6. The Force Awakens
I like TFA but the issue I have with it is that it takes too damn long to get to the story, imo. Once we’re on Takondona I’m sold but up until then it kind of crawls. It’s an issue I have with TLJ, too, but it bugs me more in TFA because there’s less going on. It’s still got one of my favorite scenes, though, which is Han’s death.Ā 
5. A New HopeĀ 
I feel weird about not complaining about how long ANH takes to get started when I just did the same thing for TFA but it feels like it works better in ANH. I find young Luke really super charming and sincere so he’s a fun character to follow as the story goes on. It’s honestly just a charming movie.Ā 
4. The Empire Strikes Back
I like Empire a lot, just like 90% of all people who’ve seen it. There’s a lot to really love about it, imo. I think I like Lando the best, though, and I totally get why he did what he did. It’s not just the twist that solidifies this movie as a cultural landmark, imo, it’s just that it’s that good.Ā 
3. The Last Jedi
This one bounces back and forth between #3 and #1, honestly. I love the film despite some things I would change (it draaaaags in parts). I love that it finally addresses the failings of the old Jedi worldview, which has always been an issue for me ever since I saw the PT as a kid, I love Rose being smart and compassionate and angry (and all of these things compliment each other because they’re kept in balance and drive her character) and that she’s not *just* a love interest but also a great character. Seeing Rey more vulnerable really made her character click for me and I liked her a lot better after this film. I mean, I could go on but there’s a lot in it that just makes me very happy.Ā 
2. Revenge of the Sith
This movie. This freaking movie. Like, it’s not a secret that I love some tortured tragic characters but my heart really breaks for Anakin. He’s finally at his lowest, he screws it all up, and everyone has to pay the consequences. It’s so damn Greek. Outside of that, I love Palpatine finally revealing himself and playing everyone like a fiddle. I love the final goodbye between Anakin and Obi-Wan (pre-Vader) where they don’t know it’s goodbye but we do and it hurts. I love the fight on Mustafar (Anakin in black, Obi in white, circling each other like yin and yang in conflict). Maybe part of the reason I love it so much is because of The Clone Wars cartoons, because it really does show what kind of person Anakin was and what he could’ve been. It hurts. It hurts so good.Ā 
1. Return of the Jedi
In a weird twist this was actually the first Star Wars movie I ever saw so it gets nostalgia points. I’m still a little afraid of the Ewoks but what makes this movie for me is Luke and Vader. It just does. I love a good redemption story, and I love that Luke’s faith and hope that his father could still choose to do the right thing was rewarded, rather than being punished. This is Luke at his best, when he chooses not to meet violence with violence, but love. That’s just !!! And what other male character – what other male hero – employs a tactic like that? That’s incredibly unexpected and it’s one of my biggest pet peeves that instead of looking at Luke and seeing a character who chooses to lay his head on the chopping block to give someone else a choice he becomes this bad ass lightsaber swinging hero who pulls ships out of the sky. Luke’s power isn’t in destruction; it’s in renewal. (Also I feel like there’s a meta commentary on this very thing with Luke’s arc in The Last Jedi.)Ā 

Okay, so that was a bit of a rant but it’s important to be, I guess. Other things I love about RotJ are Leia strangling Jabba, Han being an idiot about Leia’s feelings, Lando leading the run on the Death Star, and Anakin’s funeral.Ā 

Sen me a flower, I’ll tell you whatever I want.Ā 

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virren-once:

Sighthound Reylo worksheet

There’s a little story behind the idea of this reylo-interpretation.

Kylo Ren aka Ben Solo is a Russian Borzoi (this breed is also called the Russian wolfhound). Russian Borzois are royalties: French wiki says they are kinda aristocrats among other dog breeds. On their native language ā€œborzoiā€ means ā€œhot-tempered, cocky, swiftā€. Those dogs are fast, dangerous, but very soft with someone they respect and are devoted to. All this clung to a thought I couldn’t banish off my mind: I kept seeing Kylo as a borzoi. Kylo is partly a royalty himself

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let’s not forget his mother is a princess.Ā 

Rey is a Saluki. This breed is also known as the ā€œPersian Greyhoundā€. Saluki were born in cruel desert sands, and I found it symbolyc. They are stubborn, distrustful and cautious, skinny, fast, graceful, and it would be wrong not to mention they’re perfect hunters.

So, I have a royal insolent dog paired with a wild untamed one? I can’t think of a better match for my favourite ship. This sounds absolutely like reylo to me.

More sighthound reylo:

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This is AMAZING!!! Beautiful work!!!