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@unforth-ninawaters
The fact that people will not pay at least $5 for 1k is so sad. It probably comes from that whole “everyone can write” notion. Yeah, sure, anyone could in theory but not everyone does. Ugh. I will contain my ranting.

If you’re a professional or semi-professional I say anything under 3 cents (US dollar) per word is unacceptable. I think I read the current rate for writing is anywhere between 3 and 30 cents per word for freelance. It’s been a while though, so maybe that’s inaccurate now. My opinion is that fan authors shouldn’t charge less than 1 cent per word. Yes, that means 1k is $10 but thats still less than semi-pro and it’s a steal for the buyer. They’re getting custom art, afterall.

But, ya know, writing isn’t valued the same way drawing or painting is so the idea of charging $10 for 1k seems nuts to a lot of people.

I think if more fan authors knew the rates and charged accordingly people would be willing to pay. As it is, charging a rate of one penny per word seems like you’re charging too much, esp when writers undercut themselves at the get go. If everyone charged more it wouldn’t seem so outlandish though.

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@trisscar368
Would you want to debate? I don’t really have a topic off-hand but I’m sure we could find something…
But the only problem with debating people I consider friends is that it never gets much further than “I think A and this is why” “I think B and this is why” “I see your reasoning and you have valid points but I disagree here and this is why” “Oh. I see what you mean. That makes sense but have you thought of it this way?” “Oh, hey! That makes sense, too. I see why you think that.” And that’s where it ends. Which is fine but… probably a little less fun for internet spectating.

Probably not at 5 am (god why am i awake) but yes? I’m not officially debate “trained” in that I’ve never been in a club, but I like a good discussion/argument and most people give up on me too soon… and I think the only person I have where I can sit down and have a devil’s advocate debate is my sib. Yeah, I’m down for debate; make me defend bucklemming or something (I’ll pick a better topic when I’m conscious). It’ll be a good alternate to having my brain picking apart power dynamics in ships or going “society doesn’t like this why doesn’t society like this” in an endless loop before bed.

Lol. Sounds fun to me! It’s like 4 am here so no worries, no official topics or whatever tonight. But it sounds like it could be fun! And don’t worry about “training”. It’s a friendly debate/discussion/delving into issues. We can have pick stuff apart for however long you want. 🙂

@samanddeaninpanties
Yup! That was Mock Trial! A lot of pre-law people in that team, too.
NFL (National Forensics League) was a mix of stuff. Lincoln-Douglass debates, impromptu speeches, dramatic readings, and my favorite: congressional debate. It was essentially a Mock Senate and I loved it! That and Model UN were my favorites b/c Model UN was a mix of acting and debating and passing passive-aggressive notes to other countries. One year my team was Jamaica and Russia and the American team kept sending us notes with cartoons of buff dudes riding eagels. Oh! And that same year Iran walked out while Israel gave a speech. They wound up winning the prize for best representation of tgeir country. It was so much fun.

@trisscar368
Would you want to debate? I don’t really have a topic off-hand but I’m sure we could find something…
But the only problem with debating people I consider friends is that it never gets much further than “I think A and this is why” “I think B and this is why” “I see your reasoning and you have valid points but I disagree here and this is why” “Oh. I see what you mean. That makes sense but have you thought of it this way?” “Oh, hey! That makes sense, too. I see why you think that.” And that’s where it ends. Which is fine but… probably a little less fun for internet spectating.

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Oh!!! That’s right!!! The first idea would have required more research, yes? Right. Word count. The bane of your existence 😉 (keeping it short, that is). I can see how that affected your decision on where to place the story and the sweeter tone. I dig it though. And if you do end up ever writing a sequel/timestamp/whatever I’d totally read it.

lol. Yeah, I am terrible at keeping things short. But thank you 🙂 If I do write a timestamp/sequel I will definitely let you know. 

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Soooooo. What made you decide to make it more of a fluff piece and set it in the period of time that you did? Was the fluff done on purpose or did it just happen that way?

Well part of it was because I didn’t know what I wanted to do. Well, that’s not true. I did, but my first idea fell through. But I think part of my reason was because I wanted to keep it short. I signed up for a mini bang it could have gotten way out of hand if I set it in an angstier time period. The fluff was kinda intentional.

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I dunno, I think for the genre you ended up writing it worked well! If it was on the angstier side (closer to Some Things Last) I’d see how more scenes with them getting to know each other would be important. Learning Curve is a bit lighter on the angst, though. Sam’s got issues and I wanted to cuddle him but it felt like he’d gotten over the worst of them by the time Cas came along, if that makes sense?

No, yeah, Sam was mostly past those kind of issues by the time he met Cas. He was a little nervous about dating but that’s probably just something he would’ve felt no matter who I wound up pairing him with. It’s definitely way less angsty than Some Things Last. It’s more of a fluff piece, honestly. But yeah, if Cas would’ve met Sam during his law school days there would have been an assload more angst and much more roadblocks for the two of them.

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Well, I mean, weren’t you in a rush to finish it? The one bad thing about writing on a deadline is your quality can take a hit at times. But I still think it’s awesome. What ways do you think you could have improved the fic?

Oh yeah, I was on a massive time crunch with that one. I didn’t keep track of the time line too well.
I think I could’ve done a little more with Cas and Sam getting to know each other. Or something. I dunno, I can’t put my finger on it completely but I feel like it’s off.

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4 & 11 and Learning Curve for the ask meme!

pshhhhh. I’m probably a bit biased since I believe I’m the one that poked at you to make this abo – but I think this fic is better than you seem to believe it is. Could it be better? Sure. I don’t think perfection really exists. Improvements are always possible. But being out of your depth doesn’t mean that you didn’t do the story justice or something, I hope you know. It’s perfectly possible to be out of your depth and STILL do well.

I’m a huge perfectionist, though, so I always feel like if it’s not perfect it’s crap. Logically I know there are good things about it, but I don’t feel it’s as good as I could have done. It’s still not horrible though.