I want to have long, interesting conversations about the different ways shippers see ships but I have a feeling that no one cares.
@unforth-ninawaters
I am pretty much always in the mood to talk ships. So, whenever you’re interested you can send me a message or reblog this post or make a post or whatever.
@fantasygeek replied to your post
I like this idea and would definately read it. My reasons for ships are usually emotional reactions and not anything I could express in a reason literary way though. I’m also frequently paranoid by disagreeing or saying I see something one way I inadvertently put down someone elses, which is never my intention.
I totally understand. I think “I just like it” is totally a valid reason for shipping something, honestly. I’m honestly less interested in an “I ship it because in episode 7 of season 8…blah blah blah” and more interested in what’s at the core of people’s understanding of that ship. Like for me, I have one question that’s “If you could describe your ship in one word, what would it be?” and I think that’s the most important question. I have several ships I could describe in one word, and I think that really heps me understand what the emphasis is on in a shipper’s mind.
Just so you know, I’m always okay with disagreement. Like, I may not change my mind, but I think disagreement is healthy and allows us all to see other people’s views. I have my own biases and opinions, but I don’t take anything too personally. Something may bug the fuck out of my and I may never understand it, but I don’t hold that against anyone. This first little questionarie is informal, but if enough people are interested I might throw it out there as an anonymous questionaire. Obvioulsy, it won’t be scientific or formal but I’m always interested in what people think and feel. And anonymous questionaries are good for allowing people to say what they want and need to without worrying about disagreement. So, I totally understand the concern.
I want to have long, interesting conversations about the different ways shippers see ships but I have a feeling that no one cares.
*WAVES HANDS AROUND* This sounds like fun! But I suck at starting conversations, how would you start it?
@wingstocarryon and @intotheruins
I’d love to start a conversation, but I know basically nothing about actually getting information or starting a conversation. Obviously, most of the people I interact with are multishippers, so our responses to “what do you ship” and “why do you ship it” are going to be completely different from your average single-ship enthusiast.
BUT, screw it. I’ll make a post. I have a theory about wincest and destiel in particular, but I wanna see what y’all say, first. And this is super imformal but whatever.
I’m unsure if I could add to a conversation on it, but I would certainly read your ramblings on it.
Actually, I think the most important thing anyone could add to the conversation would be why the ship the things they ship and what those things mean to them. I’ve been toying with an idea for a while that would allow people who ship different pairings to talk about what those ships mean to them. That’s the most important part, I think. ‘Cause, like, I can sit here and blabber on about American Gothic Horror and wincest and Poe, but it means a whole lot of nothing if people are just like “Yeah, no, I don’t ship that for that reason.”
@unforth-ninawaters
Nothin’ out of the ordinary on my end, just your typical nonsense about ships and all kinds of other minor things that are apparently bad now.
@trisscar368
Screenshoting because I think this is important.
Like, it will always and forever blow my mind that darkfic is condemned for existing.
I am a huge horror fan. I always have been. Recently, I found out an 8th Saw film is coming out. The Saw series is basically gratuitous violence and only serves to add gore and torture to the horror genre after the second movie. And I love it. I love bloody, gross, sadistic horror films. I don’t know why. Maybe it’s because I want to be scared and grossed out. Maybe it’s a desire to dare myself. Maybe I’m a sadist. I dunno what it is but I love those movies. Some people think that’s sick but it is what it is. I’m not gpnna go out and kill people because I love those ridiculous, nonsense movies.
Darkfic is like that, I think. Everyone who enjoys it has their own reasons. Some are “deeper” than others. But I think as a concept it exists for the same reasons horror movies exist. Sone of us get something out of them, whether it be catharsis, entertainment, fear, whatever. It’s important for some people. It’s okay.
But to think it’s not or that it doesn’t “count” for some dumb reason really worries me. I’d really like to understand why dark media is not supposed to exist in the minds of some people.
@righteousdemondean
It’s funny, but it does! I have several cousins that are adopted. My great aunt and uncle are in their 70s and are still foster parents. And my mom’s step-siblings are all also adopted. It’s just a normal part of my family. Which is cool to me.
@trisscar368 also suggested Ent, which I also like. Par or Ent sound nice, I think. I mean, obviously “parent” is an alternative to mom or dad, but par is short and easy the way mom and dad are. Probably easier for young ones to say than “ren”, too.
@righteousdemondean @unforth-ninawaters
Like, now that I know parpar is butterfly in Hebrew it kinda makes it cute. Like, hell yeah I wanna be a butterfly to my kid. A creature that transforms from one thing to another? Kinda apropos.
But there’s also the fantasy-ish element that I don’t like. Mops is kinda cute, though. So is ma-pa.
I dunno. I’m sure I’ll figure it out by the time I have little ones.
@trisscar368
Wait… people have actually been saying some things *can’t* be darkfic or noncon because it’s their ship?? What the fuck? I thought that died down?
@unforth-ninawaters
That’s the way I see it. Like, if other people wanna use different terms for themselves or different gender-neutral pronouns (like xe or ey) that’s totally fine but I don’t want to make things complicated for myself or others. It’s a little confusing as it is that while I look and sound like a woman, I am not. I just know what feels right and makes sense to me. If there’s already a term that works I don’t see an issue with using it.
Also, kinda side note but I think about this in terms of my name, too. My “real name” isn’t Rose. Well, Rose is my middle name but whatever. My first name has “Lee” in it (yeah, it’s one of those trendy white girl names) so I could go by Lee and save a lot of trouble but… I kinda hate it. Like, idk, it just bugs the hell out of me. I had sone teachers in school call me Lee because they had trouble pronouning my first name and it just grates on my nerves.
@righteousdemondean
It’s funny, but it does! I have several cousins that are adopted. My great aunt and uncle are in their 70s and are still foster parents. And my mom’s step-siblings are all also adopted. It’s just a normal part of my family. Which is cool to me.
@trisscar368 also suggested Ent, which I also like. Par or Ent sound nice, I think. I mean, obviously “parent” is an alternative to mom or dad, but par is short and easy the way mom and dad are. Probably easier for young ones to say than “ren”, too.
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