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@anonymousantonym replied to your post “As much as I dislike writing smut you’d think I’d stop doing it so…”

Heh heh. Hard.
Because, let’s face it, no matter what camp you sit in, sexy stuff is awkward, weird, sticky, hilarious and kinda gross when you really think about it objectively. Working out how to make who puts what where, how when and why actually sound, not just sexy, but serious is “hard.” Especially when you often don’t have a lot of dialogue like in a regular scene.

Heh. I’m so glad someone went for the joke. 

No but seriously, it’s a pain! I remember one author saying that writing sex scenes are like writing fights scenes and honestly they’re both difficult for many of the same reasons. You can’t just be all “X puts Y there and then Z does A” on and on without making it boring as shit but you also gotta let everyone know *where* the characters are in position to one another. And once you add more than two people it really becomes a mess. It’s this balance of movement, feeling, sound, thoughts, and tension that all need to hit just right or else it doesn’t work.

Yeah. It’s hard. 

@caerulaen replied to your post “�� an unpopular opinion that i have is that i find the spn parody…”

oooo yeah i get what you mean,, i actually found the second one a little bit more cringey than the first one. like that whole scene with the door shaking and then the twenty-second staring between j2 and hilly/osric just…. i couldn’t take it. im not super against it though! i get that some people like it and i don’t mind that,, whatever makes people happy makes me happy.

Ooooh yeah. I totally forgot about that awkward pause where no one said or did anything. That was… yeah. 

But yeah, I’m with you. Whatever makes people happy is fine. It’s not my cup of tea but that’s okay. 🙂 

@casbakespie replied to your post “��(thoughts on different Supernatural seasons/storylines if you want a…”

can’t say i disagree about some of this… especially the michael dean. i’m interested to see where that goes, but i agree it didn’t feel like they adequately laid the groundwork for dean’s decision (though honestly i felt the same way about dean killing death or whatever a few seasons ago). all the meta writers were talking about it throughout the season, but i still didn’t really see the “hints”… how would a casual viewer feel about the finale if they don’t have (1)

the benefit of reading the meta writers who predict and harp on why/how/whatever of dean saying yes weeks before hand? (2/2)

I think about this, too. In some respects, it’s an easy prediction to make because as soon as they showed Michael and his wasteland world you could probably guess he wanted out. But at the same time I really hate things that are “shocking twists” just for the sake of shocking twists. In my opinion, meta should be a supplement. It should be there so you can get a better understanding of references that were made or how themes were laid out or things you might’ve missed. You should’ve have to rely on it to understand where the story is going or make a guess as to what’s ahead. I don’t know how casual viewers feel about the season 13 finale, but my inclination is that it probably felt like it was out of nowhere. 

And I totally agree with you on the killing Death thing. The didn’t do very well with building up Dean’s loss of control imo. If they did that better, summoning Death and killing him would’ve made more sense. 

@samanddeaninpanties replied to your post “Two things  1) How many active WIPs is too many active WIPs?  B) To…”

1) depends on the writer. I technically have 4 but I’m only working on 2 of them. 2) why not ot3??????

I think technically I have three, too, but I’m only working on two at the moment. Plus the series I’m kind of sort of working on when I want. I’ve got the energy and drive to do it right now but I know myself and I worry I might lose steam… but it’s supposed to be a fun hobby right? I’m not supposed to stress myself out about it. 

Also, the consensus so far is yes OT3, so… looks like I’ll be doing that! 🙂 

ltleflrt:

rosemoonweaver:

I never used to write in present tense. Never. I didn’t even like it that much. But I did it once or twice and now past tense looks weird and feels wrong. I call it the @ltleflrt curse beacuse I remeber reading something where she said she *never* did present tense… until that was all she did and I thought to myself “well it couldn’t be that hard to switch back and forth, could it?”. Yeah no, it is.

@rosemoonweaver I switched because I like writing Dean in present tense better than past tense.  It fits his personality in the narration from his POV better (imho).  And it was SO HARD to get in the groove (

Kiss the Baker was my first present tense fic, and I still catch places where I slipped tenses when I re-read it even all these years later :D), and now that I’m there, I don’t like writing or reading past tense anymore lol

I do read things in past tense, quite often.  Since it was my original preference, it’s easier for me to slip back into being comfortable reading it.  But writing?  A few sentences in and I’m like NOPE.  It’s super hard to alternate.

Lol. It’s funny you started doing it for Dean because I started doing it with Sam in Strength Enough to Build a Home. I was constantly slipping back into past tense there, too. It was a huge pain in the butt. But present tense just got the tone I was going for better. But now I can’t not do it. I can read past tense just fine but I have to really focus to write it.

@unforth-ninawaters replied to your post “@unforth-ninawaters replied to your post “@unforth-ninawaters replied…”

It was excellent meta, hopefully someone else seeing this remembers it too…it was maybe a year or year and a half ago that I read it, though, and I can’t even remember where I saw it. I wish I could be more helpful. 😦

No worries. If anyone else remembers it and has a link, they can send it my way. If not, I’ll just start looking lol. 

@unforth-ninawaters replied to your post “@unforth-ninawaters replied to your post “I’m getting that itch again…”

I’ve read some meta about how there is a vocal faction of f/f readers across fandom who police the content that is considered “acceptable” for f/f fic and tend to come down *extremely* hard on anyone who deviates from their idea of what is appropriate.

Hmmm. It really doesn’t surprise me. Outside of fandom there’s the trend on tumblr of treating f/f relationships and wlw in general with this… almost dehumanizing standard of purity and perfection. Like, I’m not sure how much of it you’ve encountered but there’s a definite trend of painting lesbian relationships in such a rosy light that when someone speaks up and says normal, logical things like “women aren’t perfect” and “your girlfriends can be abusive, too” it gets hit with heavy backlash. It was really only a matter of time before that line of thinking infected fandom, too. 

I’m going to go looking through some of the “discourse” blogs I know and see if I can find that meta. If I do, I’ll reblog it. 

@unforth-ninawaters replied to your post “I’m getting that itch again to dig into fandom, pick everyone’s brain,…”

What theories? Now I’m curious too

Oh, man, I have so many, just depending on what fandom and what sub-fandom we’re talking about. 

Theory Number One: Big Name Fans set the tone and level of acceptability for certain behaviors, thoughts, and beliefs within the fandom. This, as well as peer pressure, leads “smaller” fans to accept the opinions of BNFs as normal for the given fandom/sub-fandom. This is why some fandoms believe things so radically different from others, despite the fact that the people one each side are reasonably intelligent. (eg. Fan Group A says “the actor’s opinion on their character doesn’t matter and might be wrong” while Fan Group B says “we should listen to what the actor says about their character because they know them best”.) 

Theory Number Two: The Rise of Anti-ism is, in part, a reaction to not having a safe outlet for teenage/young adult rejection of and rebellion against oppressive social structures. I’ve noticed quite a few similarities between young Atheists who turn away from religion for the first time and young antis in some fandoms, including their unconscious clinging to aspects of (mostly Christian) religious structure (”If you were enlightened like me, you wouldn’t be a sinner/religious/shipper. Let me tell you the truth.” “I don’t care that it helps you with some aspect of your life, it’s wrong!” “Everyone who doesn’t agree with me is a godless heathen/moron.”). It might not be the cause, but there could be a correlation between the lack of online safe places for young Atheists to express their anger due to the increasing right-leaning nature of online Atheism and Anti shipping. Add to this the fact that much of the West is dealing with tremendous political and social pressure at the moment and you get more anxious, angry young people with few outlets and the need to find some level of control in their own lives. Add fandom, and you might get Anti-ism. 

Theory Number Three: Fanfiction, broadly speaking, varies on emphasis depending on the gender break down of the ship it’s written for. Obviously, there are more factors than just gender, like canon dynamics and wants/needs of the author, but there’s something drastically different between M/M and F/F fiction even in the same fandom. It’s possible that m/m is “safer” for both reader and writer to explore topics like gender, sexuality, etc., while f/f is held to a higher standard. Why exactly, I’m unsure, but I feel it has something to do with fear of female sexuality. M/M is safer because there is a separation from the author/reader and the characters (as most fans who read slash are women) but the same kind of separation isn’t present in f/f. There might also be a fear of doing female sexuality “wrong” in the current fandom climate that plays in to the lack of femslash as well. 

Those are some of the big, general ones I have at the moment. I have no idea how to test any of these out in full, but they’re what I’ve been thinking about off and on for a while now.